Coronavirus, la faute à qui ou à quoi et pourquoi? Quelle origine?

[izentrop]

Serait-ce important?

Non

[janic]

Adrien (ex-nico239) a écrit :
Serait-ce important?

Non

effectivement ce n'est pas important, c'est fondamental!

[Obamot]

Serait-ce important?

SARS-CoV-2 RNA reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome

C’est l’intuition que j’ai eue il y a quelques mois à propos du rhume (coronavirus) (et que j’ai postée ici)
sante-pollution-prevention/coronavirus-covid-19-carte-de-l-epidemie-en-temps-reel-t16331-2570.html?hilit=rhume#p415082 (et ici) sante-pollution-prevention/vaccinations-et-sante-pour-ou-contre-t11411-890.html?hilit=rhume#p420276 (et ici) sante-pollution-prevention/vaccin-covid-19-et-si-on-en-trouvait-jamais-comme-pour-le-vih-sida-t16425-250.html?hilit=rhume#p419563

partant de l’hypothèse que si on est seul en montagne dans un chalet un mois, et que l’on prend froid, et bien on fera [fort probablement] un rhume sans avoir été infecté par quiconque!

Ça reste une hypothèse...

[janic]

partant de l’hypothèse que si on est seul en montagne dans un chalet un mois, et que l’on prend froid, et bien on fera [fort probablement] un rhume sans avoir été infecté par quiconque!
Ça reste une hypothèse...

effectivement, la majorité des virus qui nous soucient sont déja en nous depuis le ventre de notre mère(sans virus ni bactéries on en meure).
Non pas le froid, mais le passage du froid au chaud, jamais l'inverse, les réactive on ne sait pourquoi vraiment, mais ça n'est que passager.

[Christophe]

Serait-ce important?

SARS-CoV-2 RNA reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome

J'ai lu le résumé mais j'ai pas tout compris...mais de ce que j'ai compris cela me semble effectivement ultra important...

Quelqu'un peut résumer en 1 ou 2 phrases ????

Mais cela ne serait pas plutôt à poster ici: sante-pollution-prevention/les-avancees-de-la-lutte-contre-le-coronavis-t16395.html

[Obamot]

Le Pr Fourtillan devrait bientôt pouvoir rejoindre sa famille.

[reinoso]

Le Pr Fourtillan devrait bientôt pouvoir rejoindre sa famille.

https://www.midilibre.fr/2020/12/17/uze ... EtamG_3qTo

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encore un miraculé ,, en quelques jours il se remet "d une grave maladie" qui l avait conduit a l asile , c est formidable

si les trolls qui avaient trouvé normal son internement veulent rester cohérent avec eux même ils devraient maintenant hurler au scandale ?

[izentrop]

Le Pr Fourtillan devrait bientôt pouvoir rejoindre sa famille...

Quelles compétences a ce monsieur pour contester des décisions de justice via vidéo interposée ?

[janic]

Quelles compétences a ce monsieur pour contester des décisions de justice via vidéo interposée ?

il ne faut pas confondre application d'une loi qui dépend de l'interprétation des textes et la justice qui dépend de la subjectivité humaine où se mélangent sentiments, culture, habitudes,etc...

[Obamot]

Le Pr Fourtillan devrait bientôt pouvoir rejoindre sa famille...

Quelles compétences a ce monsieur pour contester des décisions de justice via vidéo interposée ?

Quelqu’un qui n’a pas d’couilles ne peut comprendre qu’il y ait encore de vrais avocats qui prennent des risques comme Me Brusa.
Il ne peut comprendre qu’il y ait encore de vrais scientifiques qui prennent des risques comme:

Le Pr Fourrillan, le Pr Henri Joyeux, le Pr Christian Perronne, le Pr Didier Raoult, le Dr Taj Shaller, le Dr Alexandra Henrion Caude, etc

Et comme tous ceux-ci :

Dr James Watson (Statistician, Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit, Thailand)1
Professor Amanda Adler (Trialist & Clinician, Director of the Diabetes Trials Unit, UK)
Dr Ravi Amaravadi (Researcher, University of Pennsylvania, USA)
Dr Ambrose Agweyu (Medical researcher, KEMRI-Wellcome Trust Research Programme, Kenya)
Professor Michael Avidan (Clinician, Washington University in St Louis, USA)
Professor Nicholas Anstey (Clinician, Menzies School of Health Research, Australia)
Dr Yaseen Arabi (Clinician, King Saud Bin Abdulaziz University for Health Sciences, Saudi Arabia)
Dr Elizabeth Ashley (Clinician, Director of the Lao-Oxford-Mahosot Hospital-Wellcome Trust Research Unit, Laos)
Professor Kevin Baird (Researcher, Head of the Eijkman-Oxford Clinical Research Unit, Indonesia)
Professor Francois Balloux (Researcher, Director of the UCL Genetics Institute, UK)
Dr Clifford George Banda (Clinician, University of Cape Town, South Africa)
Dr Edwine Barasa (Health economist, KEMRI-Wellcome Trust Research Programme, Kenya)
Professor Karen Barnes (Clinical Pharmacology, University of Cape Town, South Africa)
Professor David Boulware (Researcher & Triallist, University of Minnesota, USA)
Professor Buddha Basnyat (Clinician, Head of the Oxford University Clinical Research Unit - Nepal, Nepal)
Professor Philip Bejon (Medical researcher, Director of the KEMRI-Wellcome Trust Research Programme, Kenya)
Professor Mohammad Asim Beg (Clinician/Researcher, Aga Khan University, Pakistan)
Professor Emmanuel Bottieau (Clinician, Institute of Tropical Medicine, Antwerp, Belgium)
Dr Sabine Braat (Statistician, University of Melbourne, Australia)
Professor Frank Brunkhorst (Clinician, Jena University Hospital, Germany)
Dr Todd Campbell Lee (Researcher, McGill University, Canada)
Professor Caroline Buckee (Epidemiologist, Harvard TH Chan School of Public Health, USA)
Dr James Callery (Clinician, Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit, Thailand)
Professor John Carlin (Statistician, University of Melbourne & Murdoch Children’s Research Institute, Australia)
Dr Nomathemba Chandiwana (Research Clinician, University of the Witwatersrand, South Africa)
Dr Arjun Chandna (Clinician, Cambodia Oxford Medical Research Unit, Cambodia)
Professor Phaik Yeong Cheah (Ethicist/Pharmacist, Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit, Thailand)
Professor Allen Cheng (Clinician, Monash University, Australia)
Professor Leonid Churilov (Statistician, University of Melbourne, Australia)
Professor Ben Cooper (Epidemiologist, University of Oxford, UK)
Dr Cintia Cruz (Paediatrician Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit, Thailand)
Professor Bart Currie (Director, HOT NORTH, Menzies School of Health Research, Australia)
Professor Joshua Davis (Clinician, President of the Australasian Society for Infectious Diseases, Australia)
Dr Jeremy Day (Clinician, Oxford University Clinical Research Unit, Vietnam)
Professor Nicholas Day (Clinician, Director of the Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit, Thailand)
Dr Hakim-Moulay Dehbi (Statistician, University College London, UK)
Dr Justin Denholm (Clinician, Researcher, Ethicist, Doherty Institute, Australia)
Dr Lennie Derde (Intensivist/Researcher, University Medical Center Utrecht, The Netherlands)
Professor Keertan Dheda (Clinician/Researcher, University of Cape Town, & Groote Schuur Hospital, South Africa)
Dr Mehul Dhorda (Clinical Researcher, Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit, Thailand)
Professor Annane Djillali (Dean of the School of Medicine, Simone Veil Université, France)
Professor Arjen Dondorp (Clinician, Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit, Thailand)
Dr Joseph Doyle (Clinician, Monash University and Burnet Institute, Australia)
Dr Anthony Etyang (Medical Researcher, KEMRI-Wellcome Trust Research Programme, Kenya)
Dr Caterina Fanello (Epidemiologist, University of Oxford, UK)
Professor Neil Ferguson (Epidemiologist, Imperial College London, UK)
Professor Andrew Forbes (Statistician, Monash University, Melbourne, Australia)
Professor Oumar Gaye (Clinical Researcher, University Cheikh Anta Diop, Senegal)
Dr Ronald Geskus (Head of Statistics at the Oxford University Clinical Research Unit, Vietnam)
Professor Dave Glidden (Biostatistics, University of California, USA)
Professor Azra Ghani (Epidemiologist, Imperial College London, UK)
Prof Philippe Guerin (Medical researcher, University of Oxford, UK)
Dr. Raph Hamers (Clinician/Trialist, Eijkman-Oxford Clinical Research Unit, Indonesia)
Professor Peter Horby (Clinical Researcher, Centre for Tropical Medicine and Global Health, University of Oxford)
Dr Jens-Ulrik Jensen (Clinician/Trialist, University of Copenhagen, Denmark)
Dr Hilary Johnstone (Clinical Research Physician, Independent)
Professor Kevin Kain (Clinical Researcher, University of Toronto, Canada)
Dr Sharon Kaur (Ethicist, University of Malaya, Malaysia)
Dr Evelyne Kestelyn (Head of Clinical Trials, Oxford University Clinical Research Unit, Vietnam)
Dr Tan Le Van (Medical Researcher, Oxford University Clinical Research Unit, Vietnam)
Professor Katherine Lee (Statistician, University of Melbourne, Australia)
Professor Laurence Lovat (Clinical Director of Wellcome EPSRC Centre for Interventional & Surgical Sciences, UCL, UK)
Professor Kathryn Maitland (Clinician, Imperial College London/KEMRI Wellcome Trust Programme, Kenya)
Dr Julie Marsh (Statistician, Telethon Kids Institute, Australia)
Professor John Marshall (Clinician/Researcher, University of Toronto, Canada)
Dr Gary Maartens (Clinician, University of Cape Town, South Africa)
Professor Mayfong Mayxay (Clinician/Researcher, Lao-Oxford-Mahosot Hospital-Wellcome Trust Research Unit, Laos)
Dr John McKinnon (Clinician/Researcher, Wayne State University, USA)
Dr Laura Merson (Clinical researcher, University of Oxford, UK)
Dr Alistair McLean (Medical researcher, University of Oxford, UK)
Professor Ramani Moonesinghe (Clinician researcher, University College London, UK)
Professor Bryan McVerry (Medical researcher, University of Pittsburgh, USA)
Professor William Meurer (Clinician/Medical researcher, University of Michigan, USA)
Dr Kerryn Moore (Epidemiologist, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, UK)
Dr Rephaim Mpofu (Clinician, University of Cape Town, South Africa)
Dr Mavuto Mukaka (Statistician, Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit, Thailand)
Dr Srinivas Murthy (Clinical Researcher, University of British Columbia, Canada)
Professor Kim Mulholland (Clinician, London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, UK)
Professor Alistair Nichol (Clinician Researcher, Monash University, Australia)
Professor Francois Nosten (Clinician, Director of the Shoklo Malaria Research Unit, Thailand)
Dr Matthew O’Sullivan (Clinician, Westmead Hospital & University of Sydney, Australia)
Professor Piero Olliaro (Clinical Researcher, University of Oxford, UK)
Professor Marie Onyamboko (Clinical researcher, Kinshasa School of Public Health, DRC)
Dr Marcin Osuchowski (Medical researcher, Ludwig Boltzmann Institute, Austria)
Professor Catherine Orrell (Clinical Pharmacologist, University of Cape Town, South Africa)
Professor Jean Bosco Ouedraogo (Medical Researcher, WWARN, Burkina Faso)
Dr Elaine Pascoe (Statistician, University of Queensland, Australia)
Professor David Paterson (Clinician, Director, UQ Centre for Clinical Research, Australia)
Dr Kajaal Patel (Paediatrician, Cambodia Oxford Medical Research Unit, Cambodia)
Dr Tom Parke (Statistician, Berry Consultants, UK)
Professor Philippe Parola (Researcher, Aix-Marseille University, France)
Professor Paul Newton (Clinician, University Oxford, UK)
Professor David Price (Statistician, Doherty Institute & University of Melbourne, Australia)
Professor Richard Price (Clinician, Menzies School of Health Research, Australia)
Professor Sasithon Pukrittayakamee (Clinician, Mahidol University, Thailand)
Dr Ben Saville (Statistician, Berry Consultants & Vanderbilt University)
Professor Jason Roberts (Pharmacist/Clinician, The University of Queensland, Australia)
Professor Stephen Rogerson (Clinician, University of Melbourne, Australia)
Professor Kathy Rowan (Researcher, Director of the ICNARC Clinical Trials Unit, UK)
Dr William Schilling (Clinician, Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit, Thailand)
Dr Anuraj Shankar (Clinician/Trialist, Eijkman-Oxford Clinical Research Unit, Indonesia)
Professor Sanjib Kumar Sharma (Clinician, Koirala Institute of Health Sciences, Nepal)
Professor Julie Simpson (Statistician, University of Melbourne, Australia)
Professor Frank Smithuis (Clinical researcher, Director of the Myanmar Oxford Tropical Research Unit, Myanmar)
Dr Tim Spelman (Statistician, Burnet Institute, Australia)
Dr Kasia Stepniewska (Statistician, University of Oxford, UK)
Dr Nathalie Strub Wourgaft (Clinician, Drugs for Neglected Diseases initiative, Switzerland)
Dr Aimee Taylor (Statistician, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, USA)
Dr Walter Taylor (Clinician, Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit, Thailand)
Professor Guy Thwaites (Clinician, Director of the Oxford University Clinical Research Unit, Vietnam)
Professor Tran Tinh Hien (Clinician, Oxford Clinical Research Unit, Vietnam)
Professor Steven Tong (Clinician, University of Melbourne, Australia)
Professor Paul Turner (Clinician/Researcher, Director of Cambodia Oxford Medical Research Unit, Cambodia)
Professor Ross Upshur (Head of Division of Clinical Public Health, University of Toronto, Canada)
Professor Rogier van Doorn (Clinical Microbiologist, University of Oxford, UK)
Professor Sir Nicholas White (Clinician, Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit, Thailand)
Professor Thomas Williams (Clinician, KEMRI-Wellcome Trust Research Programme, Kenya)
Professor Chris Woods (Researcher, Duke University, USA)
Dr Sophie Yacoub (Clinician, Oxford University Clinical Research Unit, Vietnam)
Professor Marcus Zervos (Researcher, Wayne State University School of Medicine, USA)

Qui ose s’élever contre la doxa et ont notamment eu le cran de mettre en doute des conclusions bidon publiées par le Lancet.
C’est un truc que tu ne peux pas capter et te prive d’une bonne partie de ton discernement, hélas.

Mais j’y pense, et toi ? Tes compétences propres dans le domaine médical, c’est ...?