New 4 stroke engine (en anglais)

[Obamot]

Here again, I will remind you of my newest engine and describe how you should use it:
You buy a Tesla car without a battery for 1/4 of its price, you assemble it for several dozen dollars, my last engine to give electricity to Tesla from pieces of ice that you take from your refrigerator .. and you go away. When the ice runs out, you buy it at the gas station and feed it to Tesla again .. No idiotic waiting for it to recharge ..

https://youtu.be/02OTC6ac8NI?t=107

Well, why would someone need an outdated gasoline engine?

Andrew

the Peltier and Seebeck effects are related, now is there a sufficient potential effect and how long it takes to provide enough energy to make the car moving?

[Exnihiloest]

Here again, I will remind you of my newest engine and describe how you should use it:
You buy a Tesla car without a battery for 1/4 of its price, you assemble it for several dozen dollars, my last engine to give electricity to Tesla from pieces of ice that you take from your refrigerator .. and you go away
...

What is the energy density of ice as you use it?

[inventor]

Here again, I will remind you of my newest engine and describe how you should use it:
You buy a Tesla car without a battery for 1/4 of its price, you assemble it for several dozen dollars, my last engine to give electricity to Tesla from pieces of ice that you take from your refrigerator .. and you go away
...

What is the energy density of ice as you use it?

Dear friends, it is not a week since the announcement of my idea .. Most importantly, I have shown that it is possible ... it is the crowning achievement of my 20 years of work with peltier modules .. not random associations during my sleep ..
For example, I do not know what efficiency is, when the 3rd law of thermodynamics implies that t1 - T2 / T1 must be negative in this case .. you can see that it is not negative, but the temperature difference and efficiency can be even several times different from the temperature . it is enough to accurately calculate the temperature difference and the amount of current received at the same temperature difference, but the amount of current for ice is even 4 times greater .. so I also do not know anything exactly how it can be.
On the first day, the Wright brothers only flew 300 meters.

Certainly, ice has a lot of energy. In wikipedia he writes here how much ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enthalpy_of_fusion

peltiers are a complicated thing, for example they have the same parameter as in the case of COP heat pumps. it all depends on the temperature .. here a photo as with a temperature difference of about 30 degrees Celsius I illuminate the car bulb 21 Watt ...


Andrew

Andrew

[inventor]

So now you will have to re-graph for the ice ..
Dry ice too...

https://www.meerstetter.ch/customer-cen ... efficiency

Andrew

[inventor]

My estimate: only 50 kg of this ice is enough .. every 100 km ... to maintain Tesla's driving parameters .. Refueling time approx. 5 seconds ... besides, such an engine is an eternal life time, well, it is an ordinary semiconductor that will last 100 years ... (like a transistor), and Tesla batteries, only 5 years have the maximum capacity ...
Of course, it's super safe, because even if it's something, it's only a puddle of water that will remain .rofl

Andrew

[Obamot]

I think a midle-way, could be not bad, maintain the Li-on/Na-ion batteries for acceleration, and the ice for cruising speed?

[Exnihiloest]

My estimate: only 50 kg of this ice is enough .. every 100 km ...

A thermal engine has always worked with a temperature difference. So an ice engine is not impossible. The only question is the energy efficiency.
At what temperature should the ice be? How much energy does it take to make 50 Kg of ice, and how much driving energy does this 50 Kg give to the car?

[inventor]

Obamot good new ideas .. in such new cases there will probably be a few more to find .. I think that instead of a li-on, you can be a big capaciraytor for energy storage.

Here, on another message, someone tried to count the mind a bit badly .. and then my answer ..

"ICE = Internal Combustion Engine.
BTW.
Melting 1000 kg of ice absorbs 333 MJ (92.5 kW.hr) of energy. Using the ice to cool one side of a peltier generator and ambient air for the hot side will yeild less than 5% efficiency ie less than 5 kW.hr of electricity. (Tesla batteries range from 50 - 90 kW.hr and weigh a lot less than 1000 kg.)"


gruntguru, on 14 Apr 2022 - 05:02, said:

Congratulations. Your modified Tesla will travel about the same distance as a fully charged standard one - while consuming more than 10 tonnes of ice.

Well, thanks for the congratulations, :wave:
but now I count that it is a bit better than you think .. By using your data only, which are not completely strange (5% of peltier efficiency) you do not take into account the temperature difference, nor the COP of the peltier, which in addition under new circumstances, it can be completely old .. Note that in the video the amount of tension from ice is 4 times higher than the voltage from finger heat (difference =, - 12 degrees) but with new things it can be anyway .. But ok, we accept just your data. firstly, my Tesla will also be about 900 kg lighter than the one with batteries, so with a battery capacity of 50 KWh it would drive twice as far ... that is, 25 KWH would be enough for about 600 km. faster than refueling even gasoline .. So we can only have 100 kg of ice on board .. and more often pour this ice into such a Tesla .. or 25 KWh divide by 10 times, this will give us 2.5 kWh of 100 kg of ice, and it is twice less than you calculated .. So only 50 kg of this ice would be enough .. every 100 km ... to maintain Tesla driving parameters .. Refueling time about 5 seconds ... besides, such an engine is live time , well, this is an ordinary semiconductor that will last for 100 years ... (like a transistor), and Tesla batteries, well, 5 years have the maximum capacity ...
Of course, it is super safe, because even if it is something, only a puddle of water will remain ..
With this efficiency and 5% stories, I also disagree, because I fought with these peltiers for a few years. Here is a photo where, with a difference of about 30 degrees Celsius, I illuminate a 21 watt car bulb. and it was 10 years ago ..




In any case, best regards, and, and start doing something, because I am 71 years old, I have Miastenia gravis, and I have a very low retirement (after 50 years of work), so I can't do anything anymore .. I can only show directions ..

Andrew

[Obamot]

Yes, I think some people here have lost the naive candour, that could drive them throughout the spirit of funny science... the very science that can lead to new applications, or even make new discoveries...

It is indeed by not taking oneself too seriously and by having fun, that the soul is awakened and our brain can breaks the barriers of conformism, but that, only the real researchers seem to have understood it (this does not prevent a great rigor in the scientific approach...)

[inventor]

Yes, I think some people here have lost the naive candour, that could drive them throughout the spirit of funny science... the very science that can lead to new applications, or even make new discoveries...

It is indeed by not taking oneself too seriously and by having fun, that the soul is awakened and our brain can breaks the barriers of conformism, but that, only the real researchers seem to have understood it (this does not prevent a great rigor in the scientific approach...)

I wonder who do you consider to be the "real researcher"? It is not "science" that leads to new discoveries, but people with the name and surname: Andrzej Feliks ... And the discovery is made by a real researcher who was your brother with science and technology all his life ... and music that helped him in thinking .. But he had to do the work himself, with his own money .. and rather sparingly .. Sometimes there was also something wrong and then. God was telling you what to do to make it better .. Because it is such a continuous path .. And courage, in the fight against "real researchers", which is acquired during car rallies. ..



You don't mind if such a converted Tesla now be called "Felix"?
Andrew