#Facebookdown : grosse "panne" des sites du réseau Facebook du 4 octobre 2021

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Re: #Facebookdown : grosse "panne" des sites du réseau Facebook du 4 octobre 2021




par Christophe » 06/10/21, 09:57

izentrop a écrit :L'enquête nous le dira ou pas, vu la corruption de la justice buisines aux states. :cheesy:


??? Quelle enquête ??? FB n'a même pas été fichu de présenter ses excuses et tu crois qu'ils vont faire une enquête ?

izentrop a écrit :Avec les révélations et propositions de Frances Haugen, on en revient à ce que disait Christophe Alcantara, si on impose les mêmes règles qu'en Europe, ce marche de dupe n'a plus de raison d'être, mais ça serait une véritable avancée, non seulement pour l'équilibre des adolescentes, mais soyons fous : pour le climat :mrgreen:


+1 mais on le savait avant les révélations Haugen !
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Re: #Facebookdown : grosse "panne" des sites du réseau Facebook du 4 octobre 2021




par izentrop » 06/10/21, 10:06

Christophe a écrit : FB n'a même pas été fichu de présenter ses excuses
“Nous présentons nos excuses à ceux qui ont été affectés”, a ajouté la firme soit potentiellement plusieurs milliards de personnes selon divers experts en cybersécurité.

“Désolé pour la panne d’aujourd’hui, a de son côté écrit le patron de Facebook Marck Zuckerberg. Je sais à quel point vous comptez sur nos services pour rester connectés avec les gens qui vous sont les plus chers”. https://www.huffingtonpost.fr/entry/fac ... 254236c906
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par Christophe » 06/10/21, 10:10

Dans les journaux oui évidement !! Faut rassurer les investisseurs

Mais pas aux premiers concernés c'est à dire AUX UTILISATEURS !

Je ne m'y suis pas reconnecté depuis mais de ce que je sais aucun message d'excuses sur le réseau....et je n'ai eu aucun mail d'explications ou d'excuses !

Ce qui montre bien le mépris qu'a FB pour ses utilisateurs...
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par Christophe » 06/10/21, 10:57

Bla..bla..bla...

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Re: #Facebookdown : grosse "panne" des sites du réseau Facebook du 4 octobre 2021




par izentrop » 06/10/21, 12:08



Mark Zuckerberg
13 hours ago

I wanted to share a note I wrote to everyone at our company.

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Hey everyone: it's been quite a week, and I wanted to share some thoughts with all of you.

First, the SEV that took down all our services yesterday was the worst outage we've had in years. We've spent the past 24 hours debriefing how we can strengthen our systems against this kind of failure. This was also a reminder of how much our work matters to people. The deeper concern with an outage like this isn't how many people switch to competitive services or how much money we lose, but what it means for the people who rely on our services to communicate with loved ones, run their businesses, or support their communities.

Second, now that today's testimony is over, I wanted to reflect on the public debate we're in. I'm sure many of you have found the recent coverage hard to read because it just doesn't reflect the company we know. We care deeply about issues like safety, well-being and mental health. It's difficult to see coverage that misrepresents our work and our motives. At the most basic level, I think most of us just don't recognize the false picture of the company that is being painted.

Many of the claims don't make any sense. If we wanted to ignore research, why would we create an industry-leading research program to understand these important issues in the first place? If we didn't care about fighting harmful content, then why would we employ so many more people dedicated to this than any other company in our space -- even ones larger than us? If we wanted to hide our results, why would we have established an industry-leading standard for transparency and reporting on what we're doing? And if social media were as responsible for polarizing society as some people claim, then why are we seeing polarization increase in the US while it stays flat or declines in many countries with just as heavy use of social media around the world?

At the heart of these accusations is this idea that we prioritize profit over safety and well-being. That's just not true. For example, one move that has been called into question is when we introduced the Meaningful Social Interactions change to News Feed. This change showed fewer viral videos and more content from friends and family -- which we did knowing it would mean people spent less time on Facebook, but that research suggested it was the right thing for people's well-being. Is that something a company focused on profits over people would do?

The argument that we deliberately push content that makes people angry for profit is deeply illogical. We make money from ads, and advertisers consistently tell us they don't want their ads next to harmful or angry content. And I don't know any tech company that sets out to build products that make people angry or depressed. The moral, business and product incentives all point in the opposite direction.

But of everything published, I'm particularly focused on the questions raised about our work with kids. I've spent a lot of time reflecting on the kinds of experiences I want my kids and others to have online, and it's very important to me that everything we build is safe and good for kids.

The reality is that young people use technology. Think about how many school-age kids have phones. Rather than ignoring this, technology companies should build experiences that meet their needs while also keeping them safe. We're deeply committed to doing industry-leading work in this area. A good example of this work is Messenger Kids, which is widely recognized as better and safer than alternatives.

We've also worked on bringing this kind of age-appropriate experience with parental controls for Instagram too. But given all the questions about whether this would actually be better for kids, we've paused that project to take more time to engage with experts and make sure anything we do would be helpful.

Like many of you, I found it difficult to read the mischaracterization of the research into how Instagram affects young people. As we wrote in our Newsroom post explaining this: "The research actually demonstrated that many teens we heard from feel that using Instagram helps them when they are struggling with the kinds of hard moments and issues teenagers have always faced. In fact, in 11 of 12 areas on the slide referenced by the Journal -- including serious areas like loneliness, anxiety, sadness and eating issues -- more teenage girls who said they struggled with that issue also said Instagram made those difficult times better rather than worse."

But when it comes to young people's health or well-being, every negative experience matters. It is incredibly sad to think of a young person in a moment of distress who, instead of being comforted, has their experience made worse. We have worked for years on industry-leading efforts to help people in these moments and I'm proud of the work we've done. We constantly use our research to improve this work further.

Similar to balancing other social issues, I don't believe private companies should make all of the decisions on their own. That's why we have advocated for updated internet regulations for several years now. I have testified in Congress multiple times and asked them to update these regulations. I've written op-eds outlining the areas of regulation we think are most important related to elections, harmful content, privacy, and competition.

We're committed to doing the best work we can, but at some level the right body to assess tradeoffs between social equities is our democratically elected Congress. For example, what is the right age for teens to be able to use internet services? How should internet services verify people's ages? And how should companies balance teens' privacy while giving parents visibility into their activity?

If we're going to have an informed conversation about the effects of social media on young people, it's important to start with a full picture. We're committed to doing more research ourselves and making more research publicly available.

That said, I'm worried about the incentives that are being set here. We have an industry-leading research program so that we can identify important issues and work on them. It's disheartening to see that work taken out of context and used to construct a false narrative that we don't care. If we attack organizations making an effort to study their impact on the world, we're effectively sending the message that it's safer not to look at all, in case you find something that could be held against you. That's the conclusion other companies seem to have reached, and I think that leads to a place that would be far worse for society. Even though it might be easier for us to follow that path, we're going to keep doing research because it's the right thing to do.

I know it's frustrating to see the good work we do get mischaracterized, especially for those of you who are making important contributions across safety, integrity, research and product. But I believe that over the long term if we keep trying to do what's right and delivering experiences that improve people's lives, it will be better for our community and our business. I've asked leaders across the company to do deep dives on our work across many areas over the next few days so you can see everything that we're doing to get there.

When I reflect on our work, I think about the real impact we have on the world -- the people who can now stay in touch with their loved ones, create opportunities to support themselves, and find community. This is why billions of people love our products. I'm proud of everything we do to keep building the best social products in the world and grateful to all of you for the work you do here every day.
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Re: #Facebookdown : grosse "panne" des sites du réseau Facebook du 4 octobre 2021




par Christophe » 06/10/21, 13:42

C’est bien ce que je dis : il s’adresse aux employés de fb mais pas aux utilisateurs...

Un bon article que le monde vient de publier : https://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2 ... 08996.html

ils montrent que les responsables de l’entreprise ne pouvaient ignorer un certain nombre de problèmes exacerbés ou causés par leurs applications, allant de la manière dont la désinformation se diffuse sur le réseau social aux impacts sur la santé mentale des adolescents, en passant par la manière dont des groupes criminels ont utilisé Facebook pour recruter des victimes de trafic d’êtres humains. Seule une petite partie des documents, concernant principalement Instagram, ont été pour l’instant rendus publics, mais Mme Haugen dit avoir transmis l’ensemble de ces fichiers à la SEC, le gendarme de la Bourse américain. Facebook a de son côté expliqué que le contenu des documents avait été déformé dans les articles parus dans le Wall Street Journal, que les études citées étaient parcellaires, et qu’ils ne « reflètent pas ce qu’est l’entreprise », comme l’écrit, ce 5 octobre, Mark Zuckerberg.
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Re: #Facebookdown : grosse "panne" des sites du réseau Facebook du 4 octobre 2021




par Petrus » 06/10/21, 15:10

Tu imagines un éleveur qui présente des excuses à son bétail parce que la machine qui leur donne à bouffer est tombée en panne ?
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par Christophe » 06/10/21, 15:44

Petrus a écrit :Tu imagines un éleveur qui présente des excuses à son bétail parce que la machine qui leur donne à bouffer est tombée en panne ?


Dans le principe c'est exactement ça ! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sauf qu'entre l'éleveur et son bétail il y a l'excuse de la barrière de la langue...
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Re: #Facebookdown : grosse "panne" des sites du réseau Facebook du 4 octobre 2021




par Christophe » 08/10/21, 21:09

Instagram semble rencontrer de nouveaux des problèmes...



https://downdetector.fr/statut/instagram/

mais nan mais nan LUNDI c'était un bug interne lié à un update fait avec les pieds des BGP ! Et la marmotte bin elle a réparé FB et le vaccin covid il a jamais tué personne ! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:



https://twitter.com/search?q=%23instado ... cal=trends
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